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Comment by Jeff Hamons on February 13, 2012 at 2:00pm RE you going to be building any sort of a hoop house? Starting seeds indoors. These are decesions we are making just like you!
Comment by Little Seed Farm on February 13, 2012 at 2:20pm We are going to build a hoop house, but probably mostly use it for goat housing. We haven't yet decided what to do for the garden. Maybe low tunnels? Maybe a proper hoop house or quonset? We probably won't be ready to plant much until mid-March/early-April, so we'll miss most of the worst weather for our zone, but we'll also be getting a late start...
Comment by Little Seed Farm on February 13, 2012 at 2:23pm What are we thinking of planting!? I think it's fair to say "everything"! We got a little over-zealous in our first seed-buying experience and definitely have way too much. Topping the list are various greens (pac choy, spinach, arugula, lettuces, etc). We love fresh greens, so they are top priority. Beans, squashes, herbs, peppers, tomatoes and the like round it out. We used a combination of High Mowing, Seeds of Change and Seed Savers to get everything we wanted (and more). I think next year we'll try some from Baker's too, but hopefully we'll be able to save a lot of our own.
Comment by Joanne Rigutto on February 13, 2012 at 3:31pm You know, over ordering seed isn't necessarily a bad thing. With the exception of onion and a few other crops, seed, when stored properly, will keep for a very long time. So extra seed is a safety net for this year (if something fails early enough in the season, you still have seed reserves to draw from for a second planting) and if it's something you did well at, you'll have seed of the same variety for next year. I should know, I got ambitious and purchased a pound of butternut squash seed last year and then didn't get any of it planted. I think I have seed now for about 10 years...
On the greenhouse, you can use a hoop house or build a frame out of anything. And it doesn't have to be huge to do a lot of production. I ran around 400,000 plugs through my greenhouse last year and it's only 9' X 10' or so. I stack the trays for germination, use 72 count plug trays instead of individual pots, and then I have tunnels that I can move the trays into for grow out. So you can do a humongous amount of production with just a small space, especially when it comes to greens.
Comment by Little Seed Farm on February 13, 2012 at 4:14pm Very good point on the storability of the seeds. The people at High Mowing said to double-bag in ziplocs and freeze in an air-tight container for long-term storage. They just said to be sure not to let the seeds thaw out again unless you were ready to use them.
Thanks for the tips on the hoop house and seed starting, we got a lot of work to do on that front!
Comment by Joanne Rigutto on February 13, 2012 at 4:51pm Yup, I'll second what Joseph said. I found out last year that if I orient my tunnels so that they run in the same direction as the wind (in my case I usually have south winds so my tunnels are oriented north/south) and then brace the ends well, you don't have any where near the pressure on them as if you orient them perpendicular to the wind. All I need is some pinch clamps to hold the film on them. When I had them oriented perpendicular to the wind I had to nail down the film with boards and could only access them from the ends, which really sucks when you're working with tunnels that are 50' long and only 42" at the ridge.
PVC hoop houses and tunnels are, in my book, the most cost effective way to get a jump on the season and keep tender crops going through the winters.
Comment by Little Seed Farm on February 13, 2012 at 7:54pm Thanks Joseph, that would be fantastic. We'll be in touch once we get out there and figure out the strategy. I had seen a couple videos and some instructions for a basic PVC hoop house, seems like a good affordable option
Comment by Daisy on February 14, 2012 at 9:48am Oh no! I hope I didn't scare you. On the other hand, I wish I had gotten a tough dose of reality before I moved to the homestead. I really thought gardening was easier than I found it to be and I wish I had a better back up plan that first year. By the second year though, we were feeding ourselves 100% from our garden, so necessity lays way for fast learning!
A couple of things that I wish I had known to help that first year are:
- It takes about 5 years of working the soil (adding green manures, compost, etc.) for virgin land to become productive, so until then expect pests, lack of nutrients, poor water holding, etc. To hurry this along you can either put in raised beds, try lasagna gardening, or till in TONS of organic matter.
- Grass clippings are your friend! Get a mower with a bag attachment and cut grass ALL the time. Don't let the grass go to seed, but cut it before it seeds and then use the clippings like mulch in your garden. You have to put it on very thick but it will form a mat which will hold in water and keep out weeds. Push it away from the very base of your transplants or else it could rot them. The clippings will compost into the soil and make extra rich and fluffy soil for the next year.
- Trust your local feed/hardware store. These people know what grows in your area. At first I thought buying seeds from a dusty old place was not as good as the fancy catalogues, but when my crops failed and I went to the small local store saying I needed something fool proof they knew what to give me. They know the varieties that will grow in your climate, when to plant them, and many old farmer's tales about how to get the best crop. From there, I was able to venture out to the more exotic veggies and knew I always had something to fall back on.
- Buy a duster and a bag of diatomaceous earth. I don't like using DE too much because it can hurt the beneficial insects as well, but I was bombarded by so many pests the first year that I had to do something just to save some food for us. Hand picking didn't keep up with them, garlic spray didn't keep them away, and I was committed to as natural a garden as possible, so I opted for DE and dusted the plants that were being attacked every morning for about 2 weeks until it broke the insects life cycle. It saved a few hole filled cabbage heads for us and I'm happy to say that by year 3 I no longer needed to dust the cabbage because I had figured out better ways to grow it (spaced further apart, under fabric row cover and lots of onions in between).
You're right on when you say that you'll just have to jump in and start learning. Different things will happen in your garden than anyone else and so you'll learn what works best for you. Keep the faith and learn every gardener's mantra which is "There's always next spring!"
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